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RE: Operator MOD - Chris - 11-27-2022 Jack Only one valid: Print fmod (1.4 #, 5 #) => 1.4 ok. Chris RE: Operator MOD - Chris - 11-27-2022 Pete All results correct. It's not like I only have one separate expression and can use a function procedure. What I have given is just a fragment of a much longer mammatic formula and I cannot use the proposed function just like that. Someone wrote that the new operator is unnecessary because someone wrote the procedure. And why write procedures, if you can type three or four letters of the operator's name. It is also good to undermine the sense of existence: ABS, INT, etc., since it can be replaced by a functional procedure. Life must be made easier. Hence my proposal of a new operator. Chris RE: Operator MOD - Pete - 11-27-2022 If one function can't get the job done, one keyword wouldn't get the job done either. Pete RE: Operator MOD - mnrvovrfc - 11-28-2022 "KCalc" supports Chris. But "Galculator" does not, goes along with QB64(PE). In other words, "KCalc", an accessory for KDE Plasma D.E. (I tested on NeptuneOS) always returns a positive result from negative dividend and positive divisor. With this program from -27 MOD 5 the answer is 3. However, "Galculator" which I reckon was created by GNOME but running and posting this from EndeavourOS/Falkon, the results are negative. I try with -27 MOD 5 and get -2. FROM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modulo_operation Quote:When exactly one of a or n is negative, the naive definition breaks down, and programming languages differ in how these values are defined. I think is what Chris is trying to say is he would rather write "-1 pmod 5" instead of "pmod(-1, 5)", assuming the "pmod()" is the user's function to make sure modulo is positive. Or even better, write "-1 MOD 5" instead of "-1 PMOD 5". To him, "MOD" is as sacred as plus, minus and whatever else is an operator and therefore it shouldn't be written as function call. Sadly, to be able to do that, QB64(PE) would have to support OOP and the programmer would have to override "MOD" operator, like actually has to be done in C++. RE: Operator MOD - mnrvovrfc - 11-28-2022 Out of boredom I took some examples from Wikipedia. They are in the form of subprograms for when it's not tolerated if the result of division is zero, which is possible in some long-winded calculations. Using a subprogram is clumsy but I don't recommend using a "FUNCTION" to try to return more than one value, one which is the LHS of assignment (FUNCTION-NAME = value) and the other which is one of the parameters, because it confuses beginner and intermediate BASIC programmers. Side-effects are good only for those who know what they are doing. Some of you are saying, "oh just assign q and r as part of sub parameter list", but I did it this way to emphasize that the last two values are going to be changed by the subprogram. Code: (Select All) ''from C functions displayed in: RE: Operator MOD - Pete - 11-28-2022 My bet is he's looking for a reliable pattern that follows the counting sequence. In this case there are 0 to 6 representations. Hats off to Steve for picking that out of his first post. Thinking back, I might have thought MOD would have accomplished a reliable pattern for files, which is true except for a return of zero, which can be adjusted to the modulo. I vaguely remember doing something later where whatever it was I was tracking could go negative. That's when I discovered i had to write a function to compensate for negatives to maintain the pattern, not just the positive sign. Fun stuff, and I see it spurred Steve into chucking the Magic 8-Ball and making the keyword for the day, MOD. Pete RE: Operator MOD - mnrvovrfc - 11-28-2022 (11-28-2022, 01:17 AM)mnrvovrfc Wrote: ... "MOD" is as sacred as plus, minus and whatever else is an operator and therefore it shouldn't be written as function call. Sadly, to be able to do that, QB64(PE) would have to support OOP and the programmer would have to override "MOD" operator, like actually has to be done in C++. Look what has to be done in Freebasic only to get a "-9 MOD 5" which returns 1 instead of -4: Code: (Select All) Type ANUM An UDT is terminally needed so the programmer could still use the ordinary "MOD". RE: Operator MOD - Jack - 11-28-2022 @Chris Mathematica gives the following answers Mod[-1, 5] -> 4 Mod[-1.4, 5] -> 3.6 Mod[1.4, 5] -> 1.4 Mod[-7, 5] -> 3 Mod[-7.1, 5] -> 2.9 while Mathematica is ok with floating point numbers Maple's mod operator only deals with integers, for -1 mod 5 it gives 4 -- edit -- Mod[-1, -5] -> -1 Mod[-1.4, -5] -> -1.4 Mod[1.4, -5] -> -3.6 Mod[-7, -5] -> -2 Mod[-7.1,- 5] -> -2.1 -- edit2 -- Mod[-1, 5.2] -> 4.2 Mod[-1.4, 5.2] -> 3.8 Mod[1.4, 5.2] -> 1.4 Mod[-7, 5.2] -> 3.4 Mod[-7.1, 5.2] -> 3.3 Mod[-1, -5.2] -> -1 Mod[-1.4, -5.2] -> -1.4 Mod[1.4, -5.2] -> -3.8 Mod[-7, -5.2] -> -1.8 Mod[-7.1,- 5.2] -> -1.9 RE: Operator MOD - Jack - 11-28-2022 @Chris let me know if this seems correct to you Code: (Select All) Print fmod(-1, 5), " -> 4" RE: Operator MOD - Chris - 11-28-2022 Jack All results correct. Regards - Chris |