(01-06-2023, 05:44 AM)TerryRitchie Wrote:

(01-06-2023, 03:46 AM)madscijr Wrote:

(01-06-2023, 02:46 AM)TerryRitchie Wrote: Yes, I agree, a level editor would be cool. However, games that do support level editors are built with that functionality in mind before a line of code is even written. Unfortunately I didn't design the game with an editor in mind. It would take much more than a simple modification I'm afraid. I would need to rewrite the entire maze handling routine to accommodate it. I suppose a generic maze generator and handler could be designed that would allow graphics of all the various pac-man iterations to be plugged into (or evern custom graphics). But then there's the issue with movement too. Pac-man looks simple enough at the surface but underneath pac-man has a very sophisticated movement algorithm. You can literally slide pac-man around corners at 7 different points at intersections. The original programmers of pac-man were quite ingenious with its design as I found out while emulating it.

Wow, I always thought the game had good feel, but I never knew how it was implemented. 

I'm not intimately acquainted with the code like you, but when I think about it, it seems that any maze is just a combination of the same limited set of turns and intersections. There are only so many directions Pac Man can go, so even with 7 different points each, any maze can probably be broken down into the same root "tileset", no?

The maze in pac-man is deceptive. Each pellet is actually contained in an 8x8 box and these 8x8 boxes are chained together to form paths. The maze itself is 16x16 but the characters running around in the maze are only concerned with those 8x8 boxes. Once a character enters an 8x8 box it then keep track of it's position within the box (0 through 7). Once position 8, or position -1, is reached it leaves that box and moves to the next one. That is why ghosts can seem to partially cover pac-man but still not kill him. It gives the player that sense of "yikes, it almost got me" when in reality the two characters were in separate 8x8 boxes.

The reason pac-man can slide around corners in 7 different positions is due to the nature of these 8x8 boxes. If pac-man is at an intersection the player can decide to turn at any time within the first 3 or 4 points, depending on direction, and the sooner the turn the bigger slide around a corner pac-man gets. It's a brilliant tactic that allows pac-man to speed up a bit around corners to evade ghosts. The ghosts are not allowed to slide but must wait until they reach the center of an 8x8 box to turn. This is the reason the maze borders are all rounded off, so the pac-man sprite does not cover them while sliding.

I have lots of maze generating code. You can view a really good algorithm in my Super Mega Bug game that generates random braided mazes of any size. Rounded corners and sliding needs special coding and sliding would require a maze generator that can create rounded corners. Doable but much more work.

You have a Vectrex! How cool is that! I remember seeing these for sale when I was kid and wanted one so bad.

(12-26-2022, 08:10 PM)TerryRitchie Wrote: Finally! A working version I can share. This version is as about as close as you can get to the original without using MAME and ROM images.

I've been writing (and rewriting) this for 2 months now. There is still one known bug I need to track down. Sometimes the ghosts trapped in the ghost house will stop bobbing up and down. It doesn't affect game play and very rarely happens (which is why I'm having trouble tracking it down). I'll eventually find the bug and post an update, but in the meantime I need to take a break from it.

The ZIP file contains all the files needed (23 of them). The game creates a file when first executed called "pm.sav" that is two lines long and contains the options settings and high score.

Have fun! Waaka Waaka Waaka ...

(01-09-2023, 10:12 AM)RokCoder Wrote:

(12-26-2022, 08:10 PM)TerryRitchie Wrote: Finally! A working version I can share. This version is as about as close as you can get to the original without using MAME and ROM images.

I've been writing (and rewriting) this for 2 months now. There is still one known bug I need to track down. Sometimes the ghosts trapped in the ghost house will stop bobbing up and down. It doesn't affect game play and very rarely happens (which is why I'm having trouble tracking it down). I'll eventually find the bug and post an update, but in the meantime I need to take a break from it.

The ZIP file contains all the files needed (23 of them). The game creates a file when first executed called "pm.sav" that is two lines long and contains the options settings and high score.

Have fun! Waaka Waaka Waaka ...

What a beautifully implemented version of Pacman in terms of the game itself and the actual underlying code. I wish I'd taken the time to look through something like this before making my first QB64pe project last week! Option _Explicit alone would have been a godsend! I've been declaring variables I needed on a non-local scope as shared at root level - I hadn't realised you only need to add shared locally in subs that required access. That's a much neater approach. I'll have a proper look through before embarking on my next project. Thanks for taking the time to make the code so well documented!

(02-03-2023, 07:49 PM)RedAfro-LIVE Wrote: I have a question regarding this code... What guidelines would I be required to uphold with if I wanted to modify this code and share the compiled executable freely among others? I could easily have fun building off this code to derive into something totaly different. 

I would also include the original source code along with the modified source code. I am even willing to privately provide you a copy of what I am doing and make sure your ok with it prior to my given it out. 

(02-03-2023, 10:08 PM)mnrvovrfc Wrote:

(02-03-2023, 07:49 PM)RedAfro-LIVE Wrote: I have a question regarding this code... What guidelines would I be required to uphold with if I wanted to modify this code and share the compiled executable freely among others? I could easily have fun building off this code to derive into something totally different. 

I would also include the original source code along with the modified source code. I am even willing to privately provide you a copy of what I am doing and make sure your ok with it prior to my given it out. 

Welcome to the forums. It should be OK as long as Terry is properly credited for being the original author of the program, and you make this visible in your distribution such as a "README" file that, sadly, most people don't read anyways.

"Privately" sounds too strong LOL. PM within this forum should be enough.

• Scrap my usage of my original code (as I failed to notate my code adequately so it is unusable to others unfortunately). & Terry made the BEST clone of Pac-Man that I ever came across, way better than what I had done.
  
• Use the original miniature arcade cabinet as planed.
  
• Clarification statement that both the hardware and software are not to be sold or traded in any sort of raffle.
  
• Include a USB stick contaning the original ZIP version made by Terry with links to the 'QB64-Phoenix' & with simple instructions of how to download QB64-Phoenix directly from the source.
  
• Include my modified source version of the program (with adequate notations of what I did in the code) on that same USB stick.
  
• Include my email for further questions.
  
• Include a statement explaining the value of directly downloading QB64p and building the EXE to assure no malware / various are being planted. 
  

(02-03-2023, 08:17 PM)bplus Wrote: Ah another Pac-Man fan! and probably a Terry Ritchie one too

Welcome to the forum @RedAfro-LIVE

(02-06-2023, 01:47 PM)RedAfro-LIVE Wrote: funny fact, the ghost in Pac-Man are not ghost; in the original PuckMan game they where identified as monsters. 

- RedAfro