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QB64 Delenda Est!
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(10-31-2022, 05:52 PM)SMcNeill Wrote: We're open source, and more than happy to welcome anyone to come join us in developing The Phoenix Edition -- even "those other guys"...  LOL!  The main issue appears to be one of philosophy -- we here tend to follow the old way of doing things, while Cory and his crew want to embrace "modern concepts".  Our focus is forums, discord, and community -- they focus on a code of conduct.  We focus on restoring the wiki -- they focus on copying it and converting it to github *.md files.  We believe that the old rules, methods, and development model was good enough to keep the project alive and viable for the last dozen years or so -- they believe things need an overhaul to "modern github standards"....

And that, more or less, is why we do as we do and they do as they do.  We're Old Skool(tm) while they're the New Bloods(tm), and our core philosophies just don't mesh well together.  Smile

And that's the saddest part. I see the value of BOTH. I see advantage in being able to reach the Old School and New audiences. I myself fall somewhere in the middle. I daresay this may well apply to a large portion of potential users. 

Restore the wiki...AND have it available in Github Markdown. Is it extra work? Sure, but there are adherents of both philosophies who are clearly willing to make the effort and the information is made more widely available. That is an advantage, I would say.

And one of the nice things about this hobby/profession/craft is its flexibility. It is entirely possible to have a fully modernized repo with full CI and automation...while also having a simple ZIP hosted on a page. Again...you merely cater to the widest possible audience when MORE choice is offered.

Have your two camps, sure. But unite them under one banner. You both want QB64 to succeed. 

I suppose, at the end of the day, Horace was right: Omnia mutantur, nihil interit. I'm not naive enough to believe that all conflicts for all time in all places will immediately and perpetually resolved in this way...but there is far more to gain from cooperation than competition. Competitive ingenuity only applies to the shark-infested waters of capitalistic revenue-focused companies, groups, and projects. The goal here isn't money (though of course it is necessary). The goal is QB64 as a living, vibrant, modern tool that folks old and new can use and enjoy and make cool, interesting, and useful things. That's MY goal, at least...and it'd be really cool to be able to harness the impressive combined might of the developers who are contributing to BOTH projects.
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QB64 Delenda Est! - by bearheathen - 10-31-2022, 04:32 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by bplus - 10-31-2022, 04:50 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by bearheathen - 10-31-2022, 04:51 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by SMcNeill - 10-31-2022, 05:52 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by bearheathen - 10-31-2022, 06:09 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by SpriggsySpriggs - 10-31-2022, 06:33 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by bearheathen - 10-31-2022, 06:50 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by mnrvovrfc - 10-31-2022, 07:36 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by Pete - 10-31-2022, 07:02 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by bearheathen - 10-31-2022, 07:11 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by SpriggsySpriggs - 10-31-2022, 07:17 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by Pete - 10-31-2022, 07:20 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by Kernelpanic - 10-31-2022, 08:47 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by Pete - 10-31-2022, 10:49 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by a740g - 11-01-2022, 01:28 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by Dimster - 10-31-2022, 07:36 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by DSMan195276 - 10-31-2022, 07:40 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by mnrvovrfc - 10-31-2022, 07:46 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by Kernelpanic - 10-31-2022, 08:36 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by bplus - 10-31-2022, 09:50 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by mnrvovrfc - 10-31-2022, 10:09 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by DSMan195276 - 10-31-2022, 09:56 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by bplus - 10-31-2022, 11:20 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by Pete - 10-31-2022, 11:25 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by SpriggsySpriggs - 10-31-2022, 11:34 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by Pete - 10-31-2022, 11:42 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by triggered - 11-01-2022, 03:20 AM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by SMcNeill - 11-01-2022, 07:00 AM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by SpriggsySpriggs - 11-01-2022, 04:12 AM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by DSMan195276 - 11-01-2022, 04:21 AM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by triggered - 11-01-2022, 04:27 AM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by DSMan195276 - 11-01-2022, 04:40 AM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by triggered - 11-01-2022, 04:49 AM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by DSMan195276 - 11-01-2022, 05:15 AM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by vince - 11-01-2022, 05:42 AM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by vince - 11-01-2022, 07:58 AM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by bplus - 11-01-2022, 01:19 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by bplus - 11-01-2022, 01:36 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by Pete - 11-01-2022, 03:57 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by vince - 11-01-2022, 05:48 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by bplus - 11-01-2022, 05:54 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by SMcNeill - 11-01-2022, 06:00 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by Pete - 11-01-2022, 06:18 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by bplus - 11-01-2022, 09:32 PM
RE: QB64 Delenda Est! - by mnrvovrfc - 11-01-2022, 11:43 PM



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