10-31-2022, 06:33 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-31-2022, 06:37 PM by SpriggsySpriggs.)
Hello, bearheathen. Glad to hear your wife is doing better.
As for the split up and differences, this came about mostly from outsiders moving in and taking complete ownership of the project. Fellippe and Luke handed over the project to someone that no one else in the community had even heard of (Ryan Carter). The guy was trying to corporatize the entire thing and change things drastically. He barely knew how to program and didn't know really anything about QB64 itself. The forum had great difficulty staying online due to his server having issues. He implemented extremely strict rules for conduct on the Discord. He also made new copyright rules for QB64 that said that anything shared using the forums would be owned by the QB64 project. People started deleting their posts and he went on a banning frenzy. We eventually booted him out. With that, he shut down the whole project and then archived it all. We managed to recover what we could. Luke stood up a server to host the old forum and turned over the Discord to us. Matt, Samuel, Steve, and RhoSigma all stepped up to take over the project. I was, for a time, the Discord server admin. I wish I had never been. I had to crack down on the bunch of knuckleheads and numbskulls who were trying to stir up crap. Then, Cory came along. We thought he had our best interest at heart. But then it ended up that he was basically the same as Ryan Carter. Just wanted to be in control of a project that he knew nothing about. Cory found some folks who would be easily riled and were thin-skinned. They practically demanded that I oust a particular member of our Discord group (a well-known and excellent programmer) all because of some perceived slights from this member. When I defended him, they all ganged up on me to let me know that I was horrible for blaming the victim and standing up for the bully. These were all grown men, at least 40 years of age. And Cory was leading them all to make these complaints. Then, Cory and some other ne'er-do-wells got together and kept trying to slander Steve and company. Kept accusing our group of all sorts of nonsense, such as intentionally leaving out contribution history. I do not speak for the QB64pe project but in my personal opinion, I have no use for Cory and his ilk.
I went with the "phoenix" project because I knew Steve and RhoSigma and that they are good programmers. By this time, I had also gotten acquainted with Matt and Samuel. I feel confident that they know what they're doing and that they actually give a damn about QB64.
As for the split up and differences, this came about mostly from outsiders moving in and taking complete ownership of the project. Fellippe and Luke handed over the project to someone that no one else in the community had even heard of (Ryan Carter). The guy was trying to corporatize the entire thing and change things drastically. He barely knew how to program and didn't know really anything about QB64 itself. The forum had great difficulty staying online due to his server having issues. He implemented extremely strict rules for conduct on the Discord. He also made new copyright rules for QB64 that said that anything shared using the forums would be owned by the QB64 project. People started deleting their posts and he went on a banning frenzy. We eventually booted him out. With that, he shut down the whole project and then archived it all. We managed to recover what we could. Luke stood up a server to host the old forum and turned over the Discord to us. Matt, Samuel, Steve, and RhoSigma all stepped up to take over the project. I was, for a time, the Discord server admin. I wish I had never been. I had to crack down on the bunch of knuckleheads and numbskulls who were trying to stir up crap. Then, Cory came along. We thought he had our best interest at heart. But then it ended up that he was basically the same as Ryan Carter. Just wanted to be in control of a project that he knew nothing about. Cory found some folks who would be easily riled and were thin-skinned. They practically demanded that I oust a particular member of our Discord group (a well-known and excellent programmer) all because of some perceived slights from this member. When I defended him, they all ganged up on me to let me know that I was horrible for blaming the victim and standing up for the bully. These were all grown men, at least 40 years of age. And Cory was leading them all to make these complaints. Then, Cory and some other ne'er-do-wells got together and kept trying to slander Steve and company. Kept accusing our group of all sorts of nonsense, such as intentionally leaving out contribution history. I do not speak for the QB64pe project but in my personal opinion, I have no use for Cory and his ilk.
I went with the "phoenix" project because I knew Steve and RhoSigma and that they are good programmers. By this time, I had also gotten acquainted with Matt and Samuel. I feel confident that they know what they're doing and that they actually give a damn about QB64.
Tread on those who tread on you