01-19-2026, 03:16 PM
(This post was last modified: 01-19-2026, 03:21 PM by hsiangch_ong.)
(01-18-2026, 05:35 AM)SMcNeill Wrote: I personally wouldn't try to drag a new programmer into learning any version of BASIC nowadays. It's honestly a dead-end street. Can you imagine writing that down on any modern resume and submitting it?
i personally wouldn't recommend anybody. to learn python nowadays. it's increasingly becoming a waste. "what about version 4?" keeps being asked increasingly. but maybe i'm naive. see what happens to rust. because apparently this is being taught in some universities. some programmers are coming up able to work in rust. cannot obligate them to learn c++ instead. like the back of the hand.
part of the "taboo" is that m$ eventually covered most. if not all of basic. but it wasn't destined to be controlled completely. by the original authors of the language. whose company are still trying to sell true basic.
i have discovered in a few months. basic and lisp are alike. it's just not working for the young people. after using a language which has easy access to strings. and not as strong with other dynamic data structures. involving pointers, not making it easier for the programmer to manage it. then lisp seems to be arcane. must try to do things with lists most of the time. racket is an awesome product imho. but i think using "dr.racket." could cause some people to fall into a hole. "yeah i could do those cute graphics. but how to do it in my game program?" this comes from running one of the tutorials.
i don't have a lot of faith. that a.i. would make programmers' lives easier. it promises instead. to make programmers lazier.
(01-18-2026, 10:48 AM)a740g Wrote: Ok. I am going to say this - the only reason why I like QB64 is the same reason why folks like DOSBox.
you said it straight on. "music is my mistress. i don't like complications. leave it to what the music demands and i try to do my best." this from a voice clip. in a certain electronica hip-hop-like song. go retro.
(01-19-2026, 12:24 AM)Unseen Machine Wrote: As for Qb64 dying...I dont think it will as long as we who use it now figure out a way to make it more enticing to others. I'm really working hard on this aim right now with GDK and how i structure it to maintain the BASIC ethos whilst providing massive power with a few simple commands.
i agree with you. but one good step for it. is to make qb64 phoenix edition compiled. and used successfully on freebsd.
this is because linux is becoming. like an evergrowing unstable star. being tugged badly in all directions. producing dissatisfaction from a handful of people. who want to escape to something. that is closer to unix.
but maybe it's because they want to handicap themselves that way. i have to restrain myself. watching someone else writing about his hatred for "systemd". or something else like that. who never used m$ products. never used ms-dos, windows, quickbasic. i fell into this hole in another forum i belonged to a few years ago. it's difficult to sell a derrivative of a commercial product. to other people highly suspicious. of the company that made that product. especially if it's m$ and what has been done to windows. since it stopped being merely a shell of ms-dos.
hopeless addict of dying in the first few levels of two particular console viewport "roguelike" games

