QB64.org

[Dimster]

Curious'r and curious'r. That site provides an incomplete address of 4905 Spruce Drive, Crafton. No state. there is a Crafton in Pennsylvania but no Spruce Drive. It does have a Spruce Run. If you plug "4905 Spruce Drive, Crafton" into google maps, it brings you too a different name town in Alberta. It's an awfully sophisticated site which seems to target C++ and QB64. Not sure if this is related but I believe Github was having cybersecurity issues where ne'er-do-wells were setting up projects to draw in coders. Could this be a similar honey trap for coders?

[Kernelpanic]

So, QB64-org is hosted here: qb64.org



Whois: Godaddy.com

[bert22306]

First, have you noticed how QB64 is written? The "4" number is slightly lower than the rest. Also, just reading the content, this appears to be only a training site. I don't see any link, or planned link, to obtain the actual QB64 application.

So, perhaps being overly pollyannish here, if these guys eventually provide a link to QB64pe, they would not necessarily be doing anything wrong, I don't think. Even if they charge for the training courses, this should not conflict with the QB64pe role in the world? Could even help to attract new users.

As far as I can tell, what they wrote in their site is valid information. It seems that someone over there did do their homework.

[SMcNeill]

First, have you noticed how QB64 is written? The "4" number is slightly lower than the rest. Also, just reading the content, this appears to be only a training site. I don't see any link, or planned link, to obtain the actual QB64 application.

So, perhaps being overly pollyannish here, if these guys eventually provide a link to QB64pe, they would not necessarily be doing anything wrong, I don't think. Even if they charge for the training courses, this should not conflict with the QB64pe role in the world? Could even help to attract new users.

As far as I can tell, what they wrote in their site is valid information. It seems that someone over there did do their homework.

@bert22306 Take a look at my post here: https://qb64phoenix.com/forum/showthread...&pid=29596

As I mentioned there, the site has several errors which doesn't seem to relate to QB64.

1) The mention of using *strreplace* as a sub/function for data.  There's no command of this sort in the language. 
2) It's the one place in all their pages where I *do* see them talking about a download -- for QBASIC 64.

We're not QBASIC 64.  Never have been.

BUT...  It's a similar enough name that they shouldn't have any issues calling themselves QB64.

And there's one thing that ***EVERYONE*** should keep in mind -- RC Cola never gave up rights to that website, nor the QB64 Team repo.  It seemed like he was trying to find a way to make money with the project, and something half-baked like this seems to be that it'd be right up his alley.  

I, for one, have absolutely zero trust in it and I'd advise folks to not waste their time, money, and life worrying over it.  There's a reason why we took a step back from "QB64" and decided to go with "QB64PE", and this is it!  IF this is RC Cola, then it is, indeed, QBasic 64 -- or whatever he wants to call his branch of the language, before we all split off from it.  How he's changed it, rebranded it, altered it, is utterly outside my knowledge.  You may simply get a version of QB64 v2.1 and work from there.  Iy may be something 100% unrelated.  Honestly, I have no clue what the heck that site is supposed to be about.

But personally, I feel like IF it was a legitimate site, then they'd take the time to sign up here and mention something about it.  We're the only QB64-branch with a development team and regular updates.  We're the place where folks come to, to talk about the language and to ask for help about things.  With ZERO word from these guys on ANY of the QB64-development forums (ours or Cory's or any other that I know of), I *REALLY* don't think they're related to us.

I encourage everyone to avoid these guys like the plague.  I don't trust them at all, and I imagine the lessons they teach, you can find covered just as well in Terry's Tutorial for free.

[bplus]

Easy test to see if it's a valid QB64 site....   Does it mention STEVE IS AMAZING anywhere??

NOPE!

Then it's a fake site.  Avoid it!!

My memory is hazy on all this... do I have this right? 

• qb64.org = the 2020-23 site that rccola smuck took over and locked down the github
  
• qb64.net = the earlier site, domain bought by hakcers, now possibly nefarious
  

Yes that pretty much matches my memory

[bplus]

First, have you noticed how QB64 is written? The "4" number is slightly lower than the rest. Also, just reading the content, this appears to be only a training site. I don't see any link, or planned link, to obtain the actual QB64 application.

So, perhaps being overly pollyannish here, if these guys eventually provide a link to QB64pe, they would not necessarily be doing anything wrong, I don't think. Even if they charge for the training courses, this should not conflict with the QB64pe role in the world? Could even help to attract new users.

As far as I can tell, what they wrote in their site is valid information. It seems that someone over there did do their homework.

@bert22306 Take a look at my post here: https://qb64phoenix.com/forum/showthread...&pid=29596

As I mentioned there, the site has several errors which doesn't seem to relate to QB64.

1) The mention of using *strreplace* as a sub/function for data.  There's no command of this sort in the language. 
2) It's the one place in all their pages where I *do* see them talking about a download -- for QBASIC 64.

We're not QBASIC 64.  Never have been.

BUT...  It's a similar enough name that they shouldn't have any issues calling themselves QB64.

And there's one thing that ***EVERYONE*** should keep in mind -- RC Cola never gave up rights to that website, nor the QB64 Team repo.  It seemed like he was trying to find a way to make money with the project, and something half-baked like this seems to be that it'd be right up his alley.  

I, for one, have absolutely zero trust in it and I'd advise folks to not waste their time, money, and life worrying over it.  There's a reason why we took a step back from "QB64" and decided to go with "QB64PE", and this is it!  IF this is RC Cola, then it is, indeed, QBasic 64 -- or whatever he wants to call his branch of the language, before we all split off from it.  How he's changed it, rebranded it, altered it, is utterly outside my knowledge.  You may simply get a version of QB64 v2.1 and work from there.  Iy may be something 100% unrelated.  Honestly, I have no clue what the heck that site is supposed to be about.

But personally, I feel like IF it was a legitimate site, then they'd take the time to sign up here and mention something about it.  We're the only QB64-branch with a development team and regular updates.  We're the place where folks come to, to talk about the language and to ask for help about things.  With ZERO word from these guys on ANY of the QB64-development forums (ours or Cory's or any other that I know of), I *REALLY* don't think they're related to us.

I encourage everyone to avoid these guys like the plague.  I don't trust them at all, and I imagine the lessons they teach, you can find covered just as well in Terry's Tutorial for free.

Or maybe spy on them and report back to us here, because we'd be curious I bet!

I also bet it's some goofy or not AI generated lessons on demand with $'s.

[PhilOfPerth]

I don't see any threat to QB64PE here. Seems like someone wants to use their site as a money-mine, but it doesn't look like they have enough skilled operators to develop very far. But, as always, Caveat Emptor!

[DANILIN]

Forum qb64.org is closed

I remember saving several hundred pages

Is there a copy of forum qb64.org for restoration?

[SpriggsySpriggs]

Forum qb64.org is closed

I remember saving several hundred pages

Is there a copy of forum qb64.org for restoration?

@DANILIN

QB64.org Forum Archive

[SMcNeill]

Forum qb64.org is closed

I remember saving several hundred pages

Is there a copy of forum qb64.org for restoration?

@DANILIN

QB64.org Forum Archive

And if you want to download your own copy of those old forums, you can grab an archive here: https://qb64phoenix.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=2721